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SMALL FACES TALK TO YOU:
THE STORY OF THE SMALL FACES IN THEIR OWN WORDS


by Kent H. Benjamin, Ken Sharp, and John Hellier

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Influences

INFLUENCES

STEVE MARRIOTT: Buddy Holly has gotta be the biggest influence of my youth.I used run about the room wearing a pair of thick glasses -- no glass in 'em, just the rims -- and I had a tennis racket I used to mime with. And I made a record once called "Give Her My Regards" copying him -- it was dire! It was a rotten record! (as guest DJ on BBC, 5-23-87)

IAN MCLAGAN: Stax, Motown, and Muddy Waters. We used to do songs on stage live that would just be jams, really. "E Too D" or "Come On Children" evolved from just jams basically. Steve would sing -- James Brown was another big influence too -- he would sing some James Brown lines and throw in a few Muddy Waters licks -- that's where Zeppelin got "Whole Lotta Love" was from us.

STEVE MARRIOTT: My main influences (during the mod years) were Booker T and the MG's, then people like Otis Redding. I mean, if it wasn't black, then I didn't listen to it!

IAN MCLAGAN: I was on this airplane a few years ago, and I was walking down the aisle, and I heard this voice singing "...in places/Small Faces abound...." and I looked and it was David Crosby. He said "hey man, we wrote that line about you, you know....." And we never did know it then!

KEN SHARP: Did you get to see any of your idols back then, Otis, Booker T?

IAN MCLAGAN: I saw Otis, Booker T, Arthur Conley, Sam & Dave, and Eddie Floyd all in one night. The four of us went to see our favorite band at the Hammersmith Odeon. The curtains opened, "Green Onions." It could've ended right then, and I coulda gone home happy. It was fantastic! Otis did "Try A Little Tenderness." But Sam'n'Dave stole the show.

KEN SHARP: Have you ever met any of them?

IAN MCLAGAN: Not then, later yeah. I meet Booker T every time and it's the first time he's met me every time.

KEN SHARP: Like with Chuck Berry meeting Keith?

IAN MCLAGAN: Yeah. The last time he played in Austin I went him and his organ was fucking up. I went to seem him afterwards -- 'cause Steve Cropper remembers me, Duck Dunn remembers me -- they're all very much gentlemen, but every time with Booker T it's like (nice as can be) "...nice to meet you," and I said anytime you come to Austin please call me, and I'll bring my own Hammond and Leslie, it's beautiful and sweet B3 and you'll like it ... so maybe he will.

Q [interviewer lost to time and memory]: Have you ever seen or heard any of the current mod bands, and what do you think of them?

STEVE MARRIOTT: Yeah. It's very difficult, how shall I say it, 'cos they are doing something that I've done. Even the tones on the guitars they use. To me it's a compliment. But to be honest with you, I think they've got their influences a bit mixed up. They are more influenced by the Small Faces or whoever, whereas we were influenced by the black r'n'b/soul artists. They're really not taking it to the roots. What worries me is that the sort of music that we had when we was nippers is no longer available. Alright, you can get compilation albums, but they're not the same thing. We had the more obscure stuff like The Contours and groups like that. It's hard to get ahold of that stuff, and it's a shame....

KENNEY JONES: I can see a lot of bands, a lot of drummers, playing like me, which is really strange. I'm incredibly flattered, and I can see similarities in Ronnie, Steve, and Mac in the look of the bands now. Even in Oasis, the lot. They're the first ones to say so, as well, but it's quite weird. Of all the bands in the Sixties, the biggest hyped bands were the Stones and the Beatles, basically, but we were right there, and we were quite big at the time. But because we had "poppy" records -- the record company kept releasing these poppy records -- but it was our fault, we wrote them. So nobody would listen to the album tracks, and the album tracks were bloody great. We were a lot heavier band than people sort of gave us credit for, but we could never lose that pop image, if you like. Which funnily enough I'm actually quite proud of now, because there is strength in the pop side of music. I think it's actually been abundantly clear now, people have actually realized it's not just pop, it's just a commercial record. "Pop" is just a term and you can actually still be heavy under that label.

IAN MCLAGAN: I've worked with alot of younger bands, when I lived in L.A. I got more work with younger bands who were familiar with those records ... you know it's like a wave, or a cycle. Now people are familiar with the band again, but in five years I'll have to be telling people who they are again. When I moved to Malibu in 1978 after the Faces split up in 1975, and in 1975, we couldn't walk anywhere in the States. My hair is pretty much the same, a bit grayer, and I went to the market in Malibu, and this kid started laughing at my hair -- he didn't think I could hear 'im, talking to his mum "...look at 'is hair," and I'm thinking "..wait a minute!" And then about two years later, kids have got hair like mine again, and I'm thinking, wait a second, you're probably the same kid who was laughing. It all starts again now. I had someone come up to me yesterday and say: "...are you Rod Stewart?" Give me a break....


Copyright April 1996, Kent Benjamin, Ken Sharp, John Hellier, Austin, TX/Philadelphia PA. All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part is prohibited without the express written permission of the copyright holders. Reproduced on www.ianmclagan.com with permission.


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